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PostSubject: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 2:55 am

Hi there Caren,


After consideration, I have decide to decline the
offer by *alex *otion.

Kindly forward this mail to Alex as the statement
below are for him.


Many thanks and best of luck.
Valiant Lee

Dear Alex,


Thank you for your generous offers, however it is one
of the worst offer I have ever heard.

It is not an offer for Sales Professional who only have
time to consider how to make more sales. If *alex
*otion can't afford the budget for the Sales
Professional's outstation, I suggest that *alex *otion
stop going on regional plans and stick to Singapore
market instead.

If all expenses must be pay in advance and wait for
the claims by the end of the month, you are creating
problems to your Sales Professional on not having
enough money to tight through the hard times and have
to put aside a certain amount of money as capital to
work. This is work, not own business, whichever
revenue earned are 95-99% going to the company so why
ask your worker to pay up capital?

Who is going to counter sales difficulties when they
have more worries to take care of, caused by the
employer? If this is suppose to be how an employer
taking care of their employee. I will have to say your
sales people are gonna have more problems and this
certainly effects works and morale not to mention you
will never keep or even attracts sales professional
who can drive sales on flights.

For what I sees, your company doesn't seems to be here
to stay. When money attracts more money, restricting
budgets only kills your revenue. If spending $1 can
make $2 or more and $10,000 makes $20,000, why are you
still saving budget in sales?

I am sorry to say, Alex, you are one of the worst
Sales Manager/ Regional In charge, I have ever met.
Hope you can understand the goodwill of my feedback
and adjust for the better.


Good luck and gong xi fa chai
Valiant Lee
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raphy
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 9:50 am

u crazy ah? pay in advance and claim at end of month or after u come back from trip is the normal mah.

If not how the company will know how much u need to spend? Its for better accountancy and finance control.
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 10:03 am

What is this about?
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 11:27 am

Prince Valiant wrote:
Hi there Caren,


After much consideration, I have decided to decline the
offer by *alex *otion.

Kindly forward this mail to Alex as the statements
below are intended for him.


Many thanks and best of luck.
Valiant Lee

Dear Alex,


Thank you for your generous offers, however it is one
of the worst offers I have ever heard received.

It This is not an offer for Sales Professional who only have with adequate time
time to consider how to make various avenues on generating more sales. If *alex
*otion can't cannot afford the budget for the Sales
Professional's outstation, I suggest that *alex *otion
stop refrain from going on ahead with regional plans, and instead stick to with the Singapore
market instead.

If Should all expenses must have to be pay paid in advance and wait for
the claims by the end of the month
the claims delayed to month end, you are creating
problems to your Sales Professionals on not having
enough money to tight the adequate resources to see through the hard times and have
to put set aside a certain amount of money as capital to
commence work. This is work, not own business The current situation on hand is pertaining to a job, not one's business. Whichever
revenue earned are 95-99% I must point out that 95-99% of revenue earned will be returned to the company, so why
ask should your workers to be required to pay up a capital?

Who is going to counter sales difficulties when they
have more worries to take care of, caused by the
employer?
Should there be any sales complications, who might be the respective person in charge responsible to counter these, especially when there are even more unsettling issues at hand caused by the employer? If this is suppose to be how an employer
taking care of their employee.
Should this be how an employer looks after his employees, I will have to must say your
sales people team are gonna going to have face more problems, and this will
certainly effects affects works dynamics and individual morale, not to mention excluding the fact that you
will never keep retain or even attracts sales professionals
who can drive sales on flights.

For what I seesFrom my point of view, your company doesn't seems to be here
to stay
will not be able to sustain itself. When money attractsgenerates more money, restricting
budgets will only kills your revenue. If by spending $1 can
make $2 or more and $10,000 makes $20,000, why are you
still saving on budget in sales?

I am sorry to say,My apologies Alex, you are one of the worst
Sales Manager/ Regional In charge, I have ever met.
I hope you can understand the goodwill of my feedback
and adjust for the better.


Good luck and gong xi fa chai
Valiant Lee
[b]
Your English....sigh....Next time allow me to vet all your letters before sending them out. Please.
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 11:31 am

lol...Furu, time to kill ah?
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 11:42 am

funniegal wrote:
lol...Furu, time to kill ah?
I just couldn't help it! It was nauseatingly atrocious!! And seriously, it's a corporate norm to use your own money first when overseas, after which the company reimburse you of your total spending!
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 2:32 pm

so paying in advance and claiming after that is sai gang?
den wad you want? company give you allowance, provided you dun make anymore claims ah? and budgetting is for the company to widen the gap btn revenue and expense.. means pple actually stretch the dollar.. budgetting is, and should be, done under reasonable and foreseeable circumstances and it is normally allowed for pple to spend a lil over the budget provided they give acceptable reasons.

in this case, budgetting is a gd form of restriction such that it instills discipline into the department on watching wad they spend. otherwise they will get into a deficit in no time..

all these are in my opinion
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 2:52 pm

Prince Valiant wrote:
When money attracts more money, restricting
budgets only kills your revenue. If spending $1 can
make $2 or more and $10,000 makes $20,000, why are you
still saving budget in sales?


yes money can generate more cash. but it has its limits.. once it reaches the limit, throwing more money in will onli incur more losses..

wad i mention below may require some economic background from readers, but i HAVE to make my point.

money is capital, which is a variable factor of production [an input that can be increased in suply within a given period of time].

as can be seen from the law of diminishing marginal returns, when increasing amounts of a variable facter are used with a given amount of a fixed factor [an input which cannot be increased in suply within a given period of time], there will come a point when each extra unit of the variable factor will produce less extra output than the previous unit.

here's a clearer picture:
take the case of a farm. assume the fixed factor is land and the variable factor is labour. since the land is fixed in supply, output per period of time can be increased only by increasing the amount of workers employed. but imagine what would happen as more and more workers crowded on to a fixed area of land. the land cannot go on yielding more and more ouput indefinitely. after a point the additions to output from each extra worker will begin to diminish.

hence this will lead to the fact that costs actually start rising once you go beyond the maximum level of profit your money can generate.

okae, if you dun understand wad i just said..
im just trying to say that if $1 can generate $2 or more, it doesnt necessarily mean throwing in $100,000 will generate $200,000 and above.
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 2:53 pm

anyway, the example i gave is take from my econs textbook.. me lazy to think of any other example~
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 2:53 pm

*is taken
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 3:09 pm

Oh no Val! Did you just self-pwned by sending that letter?!?! LOL..Imagine what poor Alex's reactions will be like? lol! First comes shock, then next laughter!
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 3:14 pm

LOL, your tone in the letter sounded so big as if u knew all, but alas, your letter is peppered with bad grammar errors and reflection of your bad knowledge towards corporate practices. I think even his secretary, Caren, probably wet herself laughing at you! Very Happy
Wait...you're sure it's Caren and not Karen right? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 3:33 pm

Valient.... letters sent out should be proof read and than check and double checked
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Quote :
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LOL...Want to teach us somemore! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 9:03 pm

furu.. dun be so evil.

make comments which are more constructive than simply mocking pple's grammar..
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 10:36 pm

Val.. poor effort..if not for furu's attempt to correct ur english, i wouldnt understand what u are saying.

I think ur letter must have backfired as Furu stated coz instead of paying attention to ur valid pts that u made, Alex would prob be laughing at ur atrocious (frankly!!!) english and grammer.
he's prob put it up on his wall to give him some humor during those stressed times...


aniways gd luck on ur job hunt Val!
and FFS use spell check/grammer check!


cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeWed Jan 30, 2008 11:36 pm

ahhh.. see? maxpower more constructive in his comments.. even asked val to use grammar check..
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeThu Jan 31, 2008 9:31 am

Prince Valiant wrote:

I am sorry to say, Alex, you are one of the worst
Sales Manager/ Regional In charge, I have ever met.
Hope you can understand the goodwill of my feedback
and adjust for the better.
LOL...! Alex must be thinking "And Im sorry to say Valiant, you are one of the worst letter writers I have ever met."
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeThu Jan 31, 2008 9:39 am

Val, please tell me you just pasted this letter here in jest and did not REALLY send it out?
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeThu Jan 31, 2008 10:12 am

LOL...Val... you self owned majorly man...!
ownage...godlike ....killing spree !!!

You more ultimate than me man!!
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeThu Jan 31, 2008 10:19 am

hey guys, dont be like that lar..i initially didn't understand what val was saying but after the checks, i understood better. anyway, this is the businesses section lar.

good effort val but like what max said, do spell check in future, n like what furu has corrected, u may wanna get ur letters proof read next time.

psst..dont ask furu to proof read ur letters k..i think he'll be very critical..lol
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeThu Jan 31, 2008 10:38 am

Val, don't forget to post Alex's reply! Laughing
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furukawa wrote:
Val, don't forget to post Alex's reply! Laughing


If there is any.. i doubt there will be any reply...
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raphy wrote:
furukawa wrote:
Val, don't forget to post Alex's reply! Laughing


If there is any.. i doubt there will be any reply...
lol...obviously not! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: This is how you Feedback Sai Gang   This is how you Feedback Sai Gang Icon_minitimeThu Jan 31, 2008 11:07 am

Or maybe Val would like to redo his letter and send another one to replace the first one? just in case alex doesn't understand?
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