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..hi, there's something I'll like to know about the Muslim religion for the sake of my own understanding, hope Muslim brothers or anyone else with adequate understanding of the matter can help me out. Thanks!

God say cannot touch some animals in the Bible so Jews and Muslims obey. They are called unclean animals.


Unclean Animals

Swine
Boar
Peccary
Pig (hog, bacon, ham, lard, pork)

Canines
Coyote
Dog
Fox
Hyena
Jackal
Wolf

Felines
Cat
Cheetah
Leopard
Lion
Panther
Tiger

Equines
Ass
Donkey
Horse
Mule
Onager
Zebra (quagga)

Other
Armadillo
Badger
Bear
Beaver
Camel
Elephant
Gorilla Groundhog
Hare
Hippopotamus
Kangaroo
Mole
Monkey
Mouse
Muskrat
Opossum
Porcupine
Rabbit
Raccoon
Rat
Rhinoceros
Skunk
Slug
Snail (escargot)
Squirrel
Wallaby
Weasel
Wolverine
Worm
All insects except some in the locust
family

Marine Animals Without Scales and Fins
Fish
Bullhead
Catfish
Eel
Marlin
Paddlefish
Sculpin
Shark
Stickleback
Squid
Sturgeon (includes most caviar)
Swordfish
Turbot Shellfish

Abalone
Clam
Crab
Crayfish
Lobster
Mussel
Prawn
Oyster
Scallop
Shrimp

Soft body
Cuttlefish
Jellyfish
Limpet
Octopus
Squid (calamari)

Sea mammals
Dolphin
Otter
Porpoise
Seal
Walrus
Whale

Birds of Prey, Scavengers and Others
Albatross
Bat
Bittern
Buzzard
Condor
Coot
Cormorant
Crane
Crow
Cuckoo
Eagle
Flamingo Grebe
Grosbeak
Gull
Hawk
Heron
Kite
Lapwing
Loon
Magpie
Osprey
Ostrich
Owl
Parrot
Pelican
Penguin
Plover
Rail
Raven
Roadrunner
Sandpiper
Seagull
Stork
Swallow
Swift
Vulture
Water hen
Woodpecker

Reptiles
Alligator
Caiman
Crocodile
Lizard
Snake
Turtle

Amphibians
Blindworm
Frog
Newt
Salamander
Toad

How come cats are in the unclean animal section, yet a number of Muslim families still keep them???
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1.) Along the way, culture is mixed with religion (Disclaimer: I'm not saying that Islam in Singapore is diluted) and hence a compromise,

2.) They are not aware or not sure of what the Koram says, or

3.) Did the Koram really say so or did you read it with your own eyes and seek counsel from a Muslim teacher.
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i feel that pang of sympathy for the muslims.. cannot touch those cute, furry animals.. Sad
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n watch their faces when yr doggie runs towards them.. they freak out ..lolx
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sad leh.. my muslim fren didnt even dare to buy a doggy soft toy bcos she is scared that fellow muslims will criticise her Sad

i dun want to be a muslim!! never!!
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Religion causes wars!
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there are many other reasons why wars are sparked..
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Yeah, and it also states that Muslims should not charge or receive interests, yet there are many who still buy cars. Now I find this unfair as Muslims are scrutinized when they need to buy cars.
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LestatWQ wrote:
Religion causes wars!

Religions dont cause wars..PEOPLE cause wars! The lack of respect, greed, power cause wars then they use religion as the reason.
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Ok for Pigs ....etc, my ex supervisor told me why.

Noah who build the ark and gather all the animals into it, to get away form the great fload, ldecide to let the pigs do the holy job.... Clean the waste of the ship. The pigs...etc are not condem, they are being respected and must not be harm because they clean all wasted of all animals just for the sake of everone on board.

Years pass, and a bible is simple yet different ppl read conclude with different ideas. Some hygineic ppl start to mistaken and tot pigs are dirty thats why muslim friends doesn't touch them. its all up to how one think lol...

My explaination. Not offical so no need argue:D
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if talking about islam, i think few animals stated in the list are not allowed, rest of them imho are stories.
and yeah as far as i know cat is allowed, and even if a muslim do a french kiss with a dog he wont become non muslim, its just 3-4 basic rules to decide between a clean and unclean animal.
for the freaking out and running its coz we can not pray if the dog touches us, otherwise as i said its ok.
the story of noah, i think not in islam.
there is some other reason for pigs. Razz
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Virgincess wrote:
n watch their faces when yr doggie runs towards them.. they freak out ..lolx
not good to say such a thing if u dun noe the reason, if u dun like it, good for you. ignore it. avoid such ppl.
OR if i say...
have you seen the faces of people who prefer dogs over children, cant raise children but can have pets.
or faces of people who keep dogs and soon become dogs
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Fruit Seller wrote:
1.) Along the way, culture is mixed with religion (Disclaimer: I'm not saying that Islam in Singapore is diluted) and hence a compromise,

2.) They are not aware or not sure of what the Koram says, or

3.) Did the Koram really say so or did you read it with your own eyes and seek counsel from a Muslim teacher.
the work is koran not koram !
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Yeah, and it also states that Muslims should not charge or receive interests, yet there are many who still buy cars. Now I find this unfair as Muslims are scrutinized when they need to buy cars.

correct bro, interest is not allowed in islam.
even music, movies and porn is not allowed in islam and yet i m into all of them, doent mean islam, but i am wrong.
correct or not?
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eh furu, u could have asked john ur questions..HI JOHN!!!
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eh furu, u could have asked john ur questions..HI JOHN!!!

hey funnie!
hows life!
u dun come to the chatbox anymore!
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johnripper wrote:
furukawa wrote:
Yeah, and it also states that Muslims should not charge or receive interests, yet there are many who still buy cars. Now I find this unfair as Muslims are scrutinized when they need to buy cars.

correct bro, interest is not allowed in islam.
even music, movies and porn is not allowed in islam and yet i m into all of them, doent mean islam, but i am wrong.
correct or not?
Ah, that's another thing I find strange. Is it okay to listen to music if Islam forbids you to? Is there any sin created? If so, why continue?
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furukawa wrote:
johnripper wrote:
furukawa wrote:
Yeah, and it also states that Muslims should not charge or receive interests, yet there are many who still buy cars. Now I find this unfair as Muslims are scrutinized when they need to buy cars.

correct bro, interest is not allowed in islam.
even music, movies and porn is not allowed in islam and yet i m into all of them, doent mean islam, but i am wrong.
correct or not?
Ah, that's another thing I find strange. Is it okay to listen to music if Islam forbids you to? Is there any sin created? If so, why continue?

nah bro, not okay, music and movies are not allowed, yes they create sin. y continue is coz of weak faith.
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johnripper wrote:
furukawa wrote:
johnripper wrote:
furukawa wrote:
Yeah, and it also states that Muslims should not charge or receive interests, yet there are many who still buy cars. Now I find this unfair as Muslims are scrutinized when they need to buy cars.

correct bro, interest is not allowed in islam.
even music, movies and porn is not allowed in islam and yet i m into all of them, doent mean islam, but i am wrong.
correct or not?
Ah, that's another thing I find strange. Is it okay to listen to music if Islam forbids you to? Is there any sin created? If so, why continue?

nah bro, not okay, music and movies are not allowed, yes they create sin. y continue is coz of weak faith.
Thanks bro, I like your straight forward answer. It cuts through like a hot knife through butter!
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furukawa wrote:
johnripper wrote:
furukawa wrote:
johnripper wrote:
furukawa wrote:
Yeah, and it also states that Muslims should not charge or receive interests, yet there are many who still buy cars. Now I find this unfair as Muslims are scrutinized when they need to buy cars.

correct bro, interest is not allowed in islam.
even music, movies and porn is not allowed in islam and yet i m into all of them, doent mean islam, but i am wrong.
correct or not?
Ah, that's another thing I find strange. Is it okay to listen to music if Islam forbids you to? Is there any sin created? If so, why continue?

nah bro, not okay, music and movies are not allowed, yes they create sin. y continue is coz of weak faith.
Thanks bro, I like your straight forward answer. It cuts through like a hot knife through butter!

no prob. bro, u r welcome!
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for the horde sia~
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so tell me again why people generally avoid eating dog meat?
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bcs a dog is man's best fren.. so that is like cannibalism..

which is generally frown upon our society..so far..

but maybe in 10 yrs time who knoes.. there are like 2 billion plus chineses and koreans in the world who eat dogs..

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fish are my dad's best friends tho... we eat fish every other day.
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i like fish.. i like chicken.. i like beef.. i like mutton..

dun think i will eat dogs.. they're too cute to be eaten!!
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